Cherry shrimp and Siamese algae eater
Can these two share a tank? The assessment below is derived from stored behavioural and environmental traits, not from a compatibility chart.
Usually works. Minor points to watch are listed below.
- Minimum volume
- 245 L
- Minimum length
- 150 cm
- Factors considered
- 8
Concerns
Temperature requirements overlap at 23–27 °C, though the band does not sit centrally for both animals. Aim for the middle of it and keep the heater accurate.
Derived from: environment.temperature on both records
Adult shrimp should be safe, but Siamese algae eater will eat shrimplets. Expect the colony to hold steady rather than grow.
Derived from: traits.predation.shrimplets
Siamese algae eater defends a territory and both animals use the same part of the tank, so give the territory-holder a defensible area away from the main swimming space.
Derived from: traits.territoriality and zone on both records
Both species occupy the bottom of the tank, so allow for the shared space when judging the footprint.
Derived from: zone and traits.activity on both records
Why it can work
- pH requirements overlap at 6.5–8.
- Hardness requirements overlap at 6–15 °dGH.
- Cherry shrimp needs a group of at least 10. Kept in smaller numbers it is not simply lonely — shoaling species held below their threshold show chronic stress behaviour, colour loss and, in several species, increased aggression towards tankmates.
- Siamese algae eater needs a group of at least 4. Kept in smaller numbers it is not simply lonely — shoaling species held below their threshold show chronic stress behaviour, colour loss and, in several species, increased aggression towards tankmates.
Conditions
Most interesting pairings are conditional on something. These are the things the keeper can actually change.
- Dense moss or leaf litter if you want the shrimp colony to increase in number
- At least 10 Cherry shrimp, counted as one group
- At least 4 Siamese algae eater, counted as one group
Derived, or documented?
These are different claims and are shown separately. The verdict above is derived from stored traits — arithmetic on AquariumHQ's own records. Whether the pairing is actually reported to work is a separate question, and for most pairs the honest answer is that we hold nothing.
Environmental compatibility
Derived from stored traits
Temperature, pH, hardness, size and behavioural traits compared between the two records. Sound as far as it goes, and it is not evidence that the pairing works.
Behavioural evidence
Limited evidence
Some reports exist and they do not agree, or there are too few to generalise from. Read the derived assessment as the main basis.
AquariumHQ's overall position
A pairing whose answer changes as the fish grows. Sold as a shrimp-safe algae eater, and the animal it becomes is not the animal that claim was made about.
What would change it: Nothing the keeper controls, other than rehoming. The variable here is time, and the fish reaching adult size is not an accident to be avoided.
Factor by factor
- Environmental overlapDerived
Overlapping ranges across all three parameters.
- Size at purchase against adult sizeReported
FishBase records this species at 16 cm standard length, so the whole fish including its tail is longer still. It is sold at two to three centimetres as an algae-eating utility animal, and the gap between what is bought and what is kept is one of the largest in the catalogue.
- Predation on shrimpletsDerived
Keeper reports conflict for adults, and the conflict is not resolved here. A three-centimetre specimen is no threat to anything; a sixteen-centimetre one is an actively foraging fish sharing a tank with animals a few millimetres long. Keepers reporting success and keepers reporting losses are frequently describing fish of very different sizes.
- Competition at feedingDerived
An adult of this size takes prepared food vigorously and will outcompete shrimp at anything offered.
| Depends on | How much |
|---|---|
| Tank size and dimensions | significant |
| Life stage | decisive |
| The individual animal | significant |
How good is the overlap?
Whether two ranges intersect is a necessary condition, not evidence. What matters is WHERE the shared band sits: an overlap at the top of one animal's range and the bottom of the other's is a forced compromise however wide it looks, and it is the case a simple intersection test cannot see.
| Dimension | Assessment | What that means here |
|---|---|---|
| Temperature | Workable | The shared band 23–27 °C is usable, though it does not sit centrally for both animals. |
| pH | Comfortable for both | The shared band 6.5–8 pH sits centrally in both ranges, with room to drift. |
| Hardness | Comfortable for both | The shared band 6–15 °dGH sits centrally in both ranges, with room to drift. |
Factor by factor
Every factor states what it rests on. Most are derived from the traits stored on both records — sound arithmetic on AquariumHQ's own data, and not a report about how the pairing actually goes. Where a factor says 'not known', the data is missing and saying so matters, because a missing factor and a favourable one look identical once both are absent.
| Factor | Basis | Finding |
|---|---|---|
| Temperature | Derived from stored traits | Workable. The shared band 23–27 °C is usable, though it does not sit centrally for both animals. |
| pH | Derived from stored traits | Comfortable for both. The shared band 6.5–8 pH sits centrally in both ranges, with room to drift. |
| Hardness | Derived from stored traits | Comfortable for both. The shared band 6–15 °dGH sits centrally in both ranges, with room to drift. |
| Body size | Derived from stored traits | Siamese algae eater reaches about 16 cm against 4 cm for Cherry shrimp — a ratio of 4.0. Size disparity drives opportunistic predation independently of temperament. |
| Predation | Derived from stored traits | Highest predation risk in either direction is "none". |
| Territoriality | Derived from stored traits | Strongest territoriality across the pair is "moderate". |
| Breeding aggression | Derived from stored traits | Neither becomes notably more aggressive while spawning. |
| Fin-nipping | Derived from stored traits | No nipper-and-target combination between these two. |
| Aggression | Derived from stored traits | Strongest intraspecific aggression across the pair is "moderate". It bears on the pairing because a fish under pressure from its own kind redirects. |
| Social requirements | Derived from stored traits | Cherry shrimp needs at least 10; Siamese algae eater needs at least 4. A shoaling species held below its threshold shows chronic stress and, in several species, increased aggression towards tankmates. |
| Group-size dependency | Derived from stored traits | The outcome depends on group size as much as on the pairing: under-grouped shoalers nip more and hide more. |
| Tank zone | Derived from stored traits | Both occupy the bottom of the tank, so the shared space is under pressure. |
| Activity level | Derived from stored traits | Activity levels are compatible. |
| Food competition | Derived from stored traits | Different feeding strategies, so direct competition is limited. |
| Risk to shrimp and snails | Derived from stored traits | Highest risk either animal poses to dwarf shrimp or snails is "moderate". |
| Effect on plants | Derived from stored traits | Neither animal damages planting. |
| Tank dimensions | Derived from stored traits | The more demanding of the two needs at least 180 L and 120 cm of length before anything else is in the tank. Volume alone does not describe a home for a fish that swims in straight lines. |
| Life stage | Evidence-backed | Life-stage dependency: decisive. FishBase records this species at 16 cm standard length, so the whole fish including its tail is longer still. It is sold at two to three centimetres as an algae-eating utility animal, and the gap between what is bought and what is kept is one of the largest in the catalogue. |
| Individual variation | Evidence-backed | Individual variation: significant. |
Environmental overlap
| Parameter | Shared range | Reading |
|---|---|---|
| Temperature | 23–27 °C | Aim for the middle of the shared band. |
| pH | 6.5–8 | Stability matters more than the exact figure. |
| Hardness | 6–15 °dGH | Check your source water before committing. |
What this assessment cannot tell you
- Individual temperament varies, particularly in cichlids and in bettas, and can override a favourable verdict for Cherry shrimp or Siamese algae eater.
- The assessment is for the pair in isolation. A third species can change the outcome in either direction.
- Both animals are assessed at adult size, not at the size they are sold.
- A verdict is a statement about probability, not a guarantee.